abba, father

so going fr Gay you see his character sketched out in all the religions, although i have to say niether allah nor zion ever ad any dealings with him that i know of. so let's concentrate on christianity.

right so we all know the gospel. how shall i put this? lord jesus predator out there, keeping his form hid, is jesus. right? his form is a great white cloudy donut shaped thing with a tall white spire rising fr its centre. its enormeous so the foolish saved, having walked with him, been made beautiful, loving him and singing hymns, they think its a city. i which they believe they will be happy always. so he leads them in. and of ourse its his 'body' and in those fogs they are devoured. which if you think what the rest of the universe is like you can see IS akind of rescue, the end of that beings suffering. now you recall that this jesus was the equal of the Dove? but of course he's never seen the Dove since, and doesn't remember. but i have met him, both out there and here on earth. out there he sits on the bench with Satan and all they do is argue. he saves some, eats them. Satan saves some, eats them. well their souls anyway. now this is right above us at the last edge of creation. and the argument is about whose kingdom is it? what is right/wrong. they are evenly matched. lord jesus predator is the highest by the bad Doves will, and Satan has been elevated and strengthened by the eagles. all this time its been going on. and the place is defective?

anyway this jesus feels nice. you feel rescue is come. then you look into his eyes, and see no it has not. but most good spirits feel its better to be with him, even if it means death, than the other.

now he went and did the jesus thing on earth. i rather think thats programed into him. anyway we know he began good, nicer to know than Satan. and on earth we see fr his gospels that he told truly mostly, but did not seem to understand himself what was happening. so he was brave, truthful, some of what he says is obviously true. like the widows mite? like the altar makes sacred because god is near it? that you give the false powers of this world false worship in the shape of money; which is unreal? all these things are perfectly true. so i believe he was perfectly moral as he is up there. right?

but thats because he is evil in a different way. now h did not know that. but you see i have seen his eyes and i did talk to him in his form. i was in my kitchen in underhill rd and we connected. i have a travelling mind so can do it. and he is forever pointing out your not so excellent moral efforts. so you try harder. and harder. but that same persistent gentle prodding goes on. and in the end i saw through it, because by then i knew an awful ot. so refused and told him of. why should a bloody housewife with my shocking life be perfect? because the father is? i laughed. and instantly saw in his nasty reply the general sharpness oof thespire thing that he is absolutely chock full of malice. and so ppl who admit his spirit into their soulhouse yes there are improvements, but the price is either death or finding yourself saddled with a malice much more powerful than u and then you are a captive in your own spirit. but thats what i have found, over and over that they may look or sound okay but insode they are full of malice, so next time a relgionist tries to get you to accept jesus you know you are seeking to be possessed by an bad lot. so refuse. even so esus didn't make himself that way. so just like the rest he also must be given teaching and allowances and accepted that he IS a son. and now you see why christians are normally awful ppl. they are possessed by a predator, he only seems good. as for the man jesus he did mot of his miracles on r2 or r4. ppl were able to remember what they'd seen, but never knew thats how he did it. he mixe up the realities a bit.

so he taught and suffered and went. his god as i have said is one gormless. a farmer. but he has kept to versions of jesus going, while the main stem spirit went back to sit with Satan and continue their quarrel. and both of these i have loved, depended, worshipped and obeyed in many lives. oh yes, i forgot to say. there's loads of jesusy ppl around, father seabreeze went all symphonic so there's the jesus thing more or less done everywhere, lots of places. but i refer here to ur one, jesus the jew who ived and died in israel 2000 years ago. these two i trusted, and i wasn't wrong. they have got me out of many scrapes and often comforted me. but it ends always the same. they kneel and worship me, though infear i go on to try again to keep the heavens nice. and hence to this life. got away fr Gay, became a christian nothing knowing but this time all these things have happened. and a few months ago i read a book whatever happened to hell? and the author says you have to be mathematically parallel to the will of God or go to Hell. and i said but that is to be made a machine! and was shown gormles who damned me but i saw what was going on. jesus built a metal fence, set nasty fires within, turned into a nasty redaced devil. the other younger, gentle version simply went up into a ceiling which wasn't there before and fr that nasty brown ceilings starts screaming curses. and i saw beings pushing a little girl, like very bright angel as you see in pictures. they were going to burn and torture that child forever, and she is maybe 3 years old? a top me? i knew her sufferings, that she didn't understand anything. nd turned rebel instantly.i threw away all that false goodness of christianity. she was carried away from the flames i think by someone who saw. there's more but we speak of jesus. so you see those two aren't good at all, are they? sort of machines?

and btw, that was being done on the white mountain. and you see what a nightmare it all is out there. and we must give jesus hiscredit. he said on one of his appearances to james and peter that they must give it up, forget him, that i fact he'd been utterly wrong. 'blest is he who never saw or heard of me'. go and look its in nag hammai. and perfectly true, what it was he was being murdered by the devils who really rule and proving that part of him was really good came back and tried to warn them. but was constrained, which is why you see he contradicts himself. he is being torured and prevented. and james ends sadly this report that he hopes justice will happen someday. that he hopes the seeker gets to heaven before he does. of course, james wants someone to rescue him.
so you see there was still a lot of real actual good in jesus. so i went and looked for him and found oh years ago his dead form all tied up and hid in a dark place. i looked on this same again a few months ago, and could see he was like that man in the turin shroud. obedient, sad, a majestic face. and i badly need allies. so i tried with all my strength to break the bonds and wake him. they had tied him so he couldn't live more lives, and thus could never work it out or learn, and no-one knew.

but i don't know if i succeeded. there is a new lord flouncing about now. given to tossing his long sraight black hair and seems very vain. is it this same jesus? because he hasnmo majesty at all!!

so now we see no i don't hate jesus. what for? he didn't know. and i agree. its good to help the sick, teach the ignorant, get religionists to behave better, visit prisoners, help those who starve. of course it is! but you don't do it because you want to find jesus or whatever, but because these are suffering fellow beings whatever their degree and you pity them.

as i have said, every one shall be treated of me as victims. as you now see jesus is!

as for their quarrel i have told them that Satans place it is by the Dove own will longago, for remembered it. jesus is supposed to be a fox, going round stealing souls, as he said, the thief in the night. so i hope they can refrain fr wot must be the longest argument in history. and co-operate to fix the place, because itwas Gay [of course] who spoilt it.

and now if you look you see sitting on that high bench; three. the very white with white hair [male] is me. but i will not stay. it IS Satans place. i don't much want to be accidentally eaten by jesus anyway all that moral nitpicking is tedious. so i think i will go to myplacethisplace [yes, elohim is back, it must bebuilt by now] and when i feel like it wander around. making my armies and civilisations you know.

but i will never again be born, or live lives. i don't need to and look how dangerous it is!